Podcaster Shawn Ryan — who interviewed Donald Trump and backed him ahead of the 2024 election — has admitted he’s completely changed his mind about the president.
It’s “for a multitude of reasons,” the former U.S. Navy SEAL said on a joint episode of his show with “The Diary Of A CEO” host Steven Bartlett.
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“I’m just, to put it plainly, I am not really happy about anything that’s happening right now. I think he’s totally gone against what he said he was going to do,” said Ryan, who has previously been critical of the way the Trump administration has handled the disclosure of files relating to late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, a one-time close associate of the president.
Ryan asked Bartlett, who is British, how he felt about Trump.
“I’m not an American, so I tend to, like, try and, you know. But I think one of the things I think a lot about is this situation in Iran and how much of a blunder that appears to be,” Bartlett replied.
“I don’t know a ton about the military or war or conflict, but logically, I can’t reason my way out of that situation,” the podcast host added. “Like, I can’t find a good outcome at this point to what’s going on there.”
Bartlett asked Ryan whether he could envision any positive outcome from the war, which Trump launched in February and shows no sign of ending anytime soon.
“No. At this point I don’t know what’s going on there anymore,” Ryan answered, “nothing seems to make any damn sense to me.”
He added, “I don’t think there’s any positive outcome for America.”