Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) shut down ABC News anchor Jonathan Karl on Sunday for claiming there is “no evidence” to support an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden.
On ABC News’ “This Week,” Karl asked Mace about criticism from Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.), who opposes the impeachment inquiry. But Mace quickly dismissed her colleague’s concerns because, in her view, “the facts are everywhere.”
“There are text messages, there are emails, there are witnesses, there are whistleblowers, there are meetings, there are phone calls, there are dinners. And you can’t say, ‘Hey, there’s a little bit of smoke, we’re not going to follow the fire,'” Mace said.
“And the inquiry … gives us expanded subpoena powers. I want the bank records of Joe Biden. All of that should be on the table to prove out the allegations in the [suspicious activity] reports. We’re talking about a significant sum of money. We are talking about bribery. And in the Constitution — Article II, Section 4 — that is the basis for impeachment,” she explained.
In response, Karl claimed there is “no evidence” to support the allegations. But Mace quickly corrected him.
“There are witnesses. The [FBI’s FD-]1023 form,” Mace protested. “There is evidence. You can’t say that there’s no evidence when there is evidence.”
“There’s no evidence connected to Biden,” Karl asserted again.
The fact that Karl insisted there is “no evidence” against Biden despite not refuting anything she actually said left Mace astonished. She then reminded the journalism professional how journalists used to hold politicians accountable — at least when there was a Republican in the White House.
“It was the fourth estate. It was the media and journalists when Nixon was going down that helped do that investigation, helped bring down the president when he broke the law,” Mace said. “[Now], you guys want to deny that there’s evidence. It’s everywhere.”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has repeatedly explained the impeachment inquiry gives lawmakers expanded powers to answer questions and probe whether Biden acted corruptly to enrich his family. The inquiry may not result in impeachment proceedings, but it at least allows lawmakers to follow the “smoke” to which Mace referred.
Karl’s assertion that there is “no evidence” against Biden came after the White House distributed talking points to the media, directing them to downplay the evidence that has been uncovered so far.
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